Comments on: Rosenhan experiment http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rosenhan-experiment/ Cyberian Explorations Into Learning Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:41:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: tortugo23 http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rosenhan-experiment/#comment-3372 tortugo23 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 04:43:43 +0000 http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rosenhan-experiment/#comment-3372 No-PC, Thanks for the link! You are welcome to link away in the comments as long as you are not some kind of spam bot and it relates to the topic, like you did here. I know for sure that different kinds of counseling are useful, effective and often necessary, but I can't speak for psychiatry. I personally think the way it is practiced today is dishonest and uncaring, but thats my opinion. I think with an accurate diagnosis and medication as a temporary first step we would be making some progress. This could buy some time to work on the cause of the issue while minimizing symptoms. Another opinion of mine is that psychiatry is just as broken as the rest of the medical biz with their unhealthy alliance with pharmaceutical corps. Mental health has a longer lasting stigma attached to it though. Look at ecopsychology and related schools of thought to see that we are integrating a lot of those ancient techniques. No-PC,

Thanks for the link! You are welcome to link away in the comments as long as you are not some kind of spam bot and it relates to the topic, like you did here.

I know for sure that different kinds of counseling are useful, effective and often necessary, but I can’t speak for psychiatry. I personally think the way it is practiced today is dishonest and uncaring, but thats my opinion.

I think with an accurate diagnosis and medication as a temporary first step we would be making some progress. This could buy some time to work on the cause of the issue while minimizing symptoms.

Another opinion of mine is that psychiatry is just as broken as the rest of the medical biz with their unhealthy alliance with pharmaceutical corps. Mental health has a longer lasting stigma attached to it though.

Look at ecopsychology and related schools of thought to see that we are integrating a lot of those ancient techniques.

]]> By: No-PC http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rosenhan-experiment/#comment-3358 No-PC Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:07:46 +0000 http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rosenhan-experiment/#comment-3358 There has always been some doubt as to the real effectiveness of psychiatric treatments as cures. By that I mean that diagnosis has hardly improved from that devised by Cicero in Roman times. More often than not it, relies on the patient identifying their own symptoms "I feel depressed" or "I feel suicidal" etc and then prescribing treatments accordingly. the Rosenhaum experiment kinda enforces this point of view. Therapy via a stranger, has all but replaced that performed via friends and family, and we are now creating a whole group of drug dependent, mentally ill people who are not cured; they are just controlled by the drugs, or rather their own expectations of what taking the drugs will do. I have blogged on the subject of how treatments have developed over the last few thousand years myself (very briefly LOL) and it was therefore interesting to come across your blog on this experiment (I remember reading about this years ago but had forgotten it). If anyone is interested, take a look at it. Don't worry I am not looking for links ... it merely overlaps the subject of this blog. http://no-pc.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-modern-mental-health-treatment.html There has always been some doubt as to the real effectiveness of psychiatric treatments as cures. By that I mean that diagnosis has hardly improved from that devised by Cicero in Roman times. More often than not it, relies on the patient identifying their own symptoms “I feel depressed” or “I feel suicidal” etc and then prescribing treatments accordingly. the Rosenhaum experiment kinda enforces this point of view.

Therapy via a stranger, has all but replaced that performed via friends and family, and we are now creating a whole group of drug dependent, mentally ill people who are not cured; they are just controlled by the drugs, or rather their own expectations of what taking the drugs will do.

I have blogged on the subject of how treatments have developed over the last few thousand years myself (very briefly LOL) and it was therefore interesting to come across your blog on this experiment (I remember reading about this years ago but had forgotten it).

If anyone is interested, take a look at it. Don’t worry I am not looking for links … it merely overlaps the subject of this blog.

http://no-pc.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-modern-mental-health-treatment.html

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